Monday, July 07, 2008

more on the jesus (existence be upon him!) hoax

jul 7, 2009

clearly, whatever is attributed to the alleged jesus was commonplace in those parts some centuries before: there were plenty of wild-eyed maniacs (aka prophets) running around shouting "beware, ye children of serpents" (just like our very own "beatified kochappi" -- from that brilliant and devastating malayalam short story that exposes and demolishes the lucrative saint business).

the desert in west asia is famous for creating wild-eyed maniacs. (we saw some of them in action today blowing up the indian embassy in kabul).

this revelation *is* a bit of an embarrassment to the church, because the allegation that jesus was unique and that he allegedly died for the sins of all ye sinners [sic] and then resurrected himself from the grave (he could do that special effect as he was, why, the son of yhwh, the king of special effects) are the marketing differentiation they use, theologically speaking, to claim their semitic ideology is superior. this is one reason they have steadfastedly refused to part with the dead sea scrolls, which were written 1-2 centuries before the alleged birth of the alleged jesus, yet contain pretty much everything he was alleged to have preached. (although lately a few scholars have publicized copies of the dead sea scrolls, and they say pretty much what this tablet says.)

the historicity of jesus and his alleged resurrection, a pretty major part of the godmen's sales-kit, is at stake. i remind you once again of tertullian: "it is absurd, therefore it must be true. the son of god died and then was resurrected. clearly absurd, so it must be true, and therefore i believe it".

this strengthens the historical evidence that paul/saul made up the jesus hoax, the "greatest story ever told". yeah. a story. not history.

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Sush


Jesus Myth?

 

An ancient Hebrew tablet is creating a stir after certain scholars identified it as containing a pre-Christian account of the awaited Jewish messiah's death and resurrection after three days. If this artifact is genuine, from the era claimed, and actually says what is asserted, the discovery clearly demonstrates that the idea of a messiah, savior or divine redeemer dying and rising after three days existed decades before the alleged advent of Jesus Christ. This dying-and-resurrecting motif is one of a number that various writers and scholars have claimed demonstrate Jesus to represent not a "historical" personage but a mythical concept found in religious ideologies and mythologies long prior to the so-called Christian era. 

http://tbknews.blogspot.com/2008/07/ancient-tablet-evidence-of-jesus-myth.html

Ancient Tablet Ignites Debate on Messiah

JERUSALEM — A three-foot-tall tablet with 87 lines of Hebrew that scholars believe dates from the decades just before the birth of Jesus is causing a quiet stir in biblical and archaeological circles, especially because it may speak of a messiah who will rise from the dead after three days.

If such a messianic description really is there, it will contribute to a developing re-evaluation of both popular and scholarly views of Jesus, since it suggests that the story of his death and resurrection was not unique but part of a recognized Jewish tradition at the time.

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http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/06/world/middleeast/06stone.html?_r=1&oref=slogin

 


5 comments:

RM said...

I can predict the response from the church. "It is now clear that the coming and resurrection of the messiah was prophesied." So the tablet writings validates the Jesus story.
Do not expect the brainwashed idiots to stop believing in what the believe. And, who cares, everyone has the right to be an idiot, I suppose.

Unknown said...

I would submit that this "ancient tablet" is probably another sensationalist scam, as is clearly suggested by the facts

(1) that no specific information is available on its provenance ("probably found near the Dead Sea" doesn't quite do it for me); and

(2) that no details are provided on carbon dating of the ink or analysis of the stone.

As such, this "news" brings to mind the faked Lost-Tomb-of-Jesus "documentary" designed to financially profit from people's fascination with the "real" Jesus, as well as the larger scandal of the biased and misleading way the Dead Sea scrolls are being presented in museum exhibits around the world, with an antisemitic nuance emerging on a government-run North Carolina museum's website. See, e.g.,

http://spinozaslens.com/libet/articles/dworkin_ethicsofexhibition.htm(article critical of exhibits)

and

http://blog.news-record.com/staff/frontpew/archives/2008/06/dead_sea_scroll.shtml(discussion and further links)

murali said...

nizhal,

I write a book that showed some oblique evidence that Jesus could have been a bastard of a roman soldier who served in rome and who was buried in Germany.It was written by a serious scholar.no sensational stuff who admitted that it would be almost impossible to confirm jesus's paternity given the passage of time.I hope iswara WILLS more evidence to be unearthed.Can you dig up the book with my sketchy details.

Expose Lies said...

Joseph Atwill has written a book showing that "Jesus" was a story created and popularized by the Roman Caesar Titus based upon his own life. There was no jesus.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCNJf83bqjs

murali said...

jesusdynasty.com/blog/2006/07/13/the-jesus-son-of-panthera-traditions/

jesus son of a roman soldier who served in palestine and died in Germany.